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TTG Client Response Gallery

Current version 2.01

TTG Client Response Gallery exists to facilitate the exchange of information between photographers and their clients.

The gallery employs FormToEmail.com's FormToEmail PHP script to collect data from clients, including image selections, image ratings, individual image comments and more. The gallery employs HighSlide to allow side-by-side large-size image previews without disrupting form input, and (optionally) also allows clients to download a copy of each image to their own machine. The gallery's features include:

  • FormToEmail powered delivery for client feedback
  • HighSlide-driven large image previews and response panes
  • Viewing of multiple large-size images at once for side-by-side comparison
  • Customizable BoxOver tooltips to help visitors
  • Selection checkboxes
  • Automatic detection of color labeling from the Library module
  • Optional download of hi-res image renditions
  • Every element can be toggled on/off
  • Individual comment areas for each image
  • Client assignable ratings
  • Custom checkbox arrays
  • Input areas for name, email address and general comments
  • Valid XHTML, CSS, etc. as is the norm for TTG galleries
  • Auto detected by TTG XML Auto Index
  • And more!

TTG Client Response Gallery 2.01

Download | Sample Gallery | Forum Thread | Installation

TTG Client Response Gallery 2.0 contains features which require Lightroom 2.0 and will be released when LR2 goes to retail. In the meantime, please use one of the below releases for LR1.x.

TTG Client Response Gallery 2.0 Pre-Final

The Pre-Final release is mostly feature complete, except that I've stripped it of features which require LR2, namely Color Labeling and Export Sharpening, so that the template will run in Lightroom 1.4.1. As far as I can tell, this should be production-ready. Please run it through its paces and post any feedback or problems that you encounter. Download

TTG Client Response Gallery 1.2

The old version of TTGCRG and no longer supported. But for those users who might prefer it to the new version, it's here. Download | Sample Gallery

Podcast

My TTG Selection Gallery podcast demonstrates how to isolate submitted image selections in Lightroom's Library, a technique also applicable to the TTG Client Response Gallery.

Download the Podcast

Requirements

TTG Client Response Gallery 2.0, when released, will require Lightroom 2.0 or above.

TTG Client Response Gallery 1.2 and 2.0 R3 require Lightroom 1.3 or above.

The Form-to-Email script requires a web server running PHP.

Setup

In order for the form submission to reach you, the photographer, the form-to-email script needs to be configured.

First, configure and export your gallery from the Lightroom Web module, as usual.

Next, open the FormToEmail.php file. Locate "Step 2" on line 69, and follow the instructions you find there, setting your email address and, optionally, a continuation address to which users will be redirected after form submission.

Rather than editing the PHP file for each exported gallery, users might prefer to edit the FormToEmail.php in the template archive. Then, each exported gallery will already be configured for your address.

Isolating Selections in Lightroom

Submitted selections are easy to isolate in Lightroom's Library module, provided you've been savvy in naming your source files.

When Lightroom generates a web gallery, it renames the image files, replacing spaces and special characters with underscores. To get the most out of the selection gallery, Your source files and the web gallery image files should have identical names.

To accomplish this, avoid spaces and special characters when naming your files; use underscores where separation is necessary. Example filenames might look like 20070108Identifier001.jpg or 20070108_Identifier_001.jpg.

If your files are named correctly, the filenames of the exported web gallery images will not be changed. These filenames will then be submitted to your email by the FormToEmail script in a comma separated list.

In the Lightroom Library module, access the Find pane. Set Text to either "Anywhere" or "Filename". Set Rule to "Contains Any". Copy and paste the filenames from the email into the search field. The selected images will be isolated in the grid, allowing your to color code them, create a collection, or otherwise separate them for further consideration, processing or output.

The podcast demonstrates this visually.

Protecting your galleries

TTG Client Response Gallery is intended to improve communication and interaction between photographers and clients, and is not intended for the general presentation of your art to the masses. With that in mind, you'll probably want to prevent the masses from accessing your gallery.

That said, I refer you to my article, Password Protect Lightroom Galleries.

FormToEmail Pro

If you find yourself using TTG Selection Gallery and/or TTG Client Response Gallery regularly, you might want to consider purchasing FormToEmail Pro.

FormToEmail Pro is a more robust version of the FormToEmail script already being used by these galleries, and adds a number of features to the script including the ability to sort form responses (the free version sorts form responses in the order they are submitted, which can get messy with complicated forms such as those employed by the Client Response Gallery), spam protection, auto responding, no branding and more. For a full run-down of features, visit the FormToEmail Pro page.

FormToEmail Pro costs less than $20.

HighSlide Licensing

TTG Client Response Gallery 2.x relies heavily upon Torstein Hønsi's HighSlide. HighSlide is not free for commercial use. Please read the HighSlide licensing information before using TTG Client Response Gallery.

If you are unwilling or unable to pay the $29 to license HighSlide for commercial use, you should use TTG Client Response Gallery 1.2, which employs Slimbox instead.

Changelog

v2.01 (2008-08-05)
New toggle for whether to open links in a new window.
Updated readMe.html.
Hopefully fixed the bug affecting Windows users.
v2.0 (2008-08-01)
Requires Lightroom 2.x.
Reads color labeling from the Library module automatically.
Output sharpening!
On hover tooltips now use BoxOver.
Now five metadata slots in the Metadata response pane.
Paragraphs can be places both above and below the thumbnails.
Form elements may be disabled entirely, allowing the template to be used as a normal, display-only image gallery.
Interface tweaks and improvements.
Bug fixes.
v2.0 Pre-Final (2008-07-10)
A public build of CRG 2.0 for LR 1.4.1.
Some LR2 features have been stripped, including Color Labels and Export Sharpening.
v2.0 R5 (2008-07)
Total overhaul, and edging ever closer to final release.
Leaner, cleaner and more stable.
v2.0 R4 (2008-06)
Added Photographer's Notes options for color labeling.
Added export Sharpening features.
General stability and performance improvements.
Still very buggy.
v2.0 R3 (2008-05-02)
Beta release of the upcoming version 2.0. This is the final beta that will function under LR1.x
v1.2 (2008-05-12)
Added a readme file containing documentation for the 1.x series of builds.
v1.1 (2008-02-26)
Enabled automatic detection for TTG XML Auto Index.
By popular request, client response elements, including selection checkboxes, download image links, comment fields and client ratings, can now be enabled/disabled individually.
Maximum size for third-rendition Large images is now 15,000 pixels.
v1.0 (2008-01-26)
Initial release.

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acey
29 January 08 / link / feed

I have downloaded the TTG Client response Gallery to:

Users/username/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom/Web Galleries/

I put it into the Web Galleries folder as a separate folder (TTGClientResponseGallery)with no results. (I also tried taking all the elements out of the original TTGClientResponseGallery folder and putting them directly into the Web Galleries folder.

Nothing happened, both times. Restarted both the Lightroom (v. 1.3.1) application and then the computer itself (PowerPC G4, 2 gb memory, system 10.4.11).

Still nothing. It does not show up.

Advice?

Many thanks!

a

Brian
29 January 08 / link / feed

Can the file download be enabled/disabled easily? I do not want this ability for most galleries.

29 January 08 / link / feed

Acey,
If you have the beta version of the gallery installed, remove it. If that’s not the problem, let me know.

Brian,
Not at the moment, unless you’re comfortable editing files. I’ll try to do something about it in the next version.

acey
29 January 08 / link / feed

Matthew,

Yippeee!

It works.

Here was the problem: After discovering your site the previous day, I had downloaded the TTGFeedbackBeta. After removing it the TTGClientResponse dropped into place and I have made a quick page up to experiment with. Seems great and perfect for my primary need to downloading files to multiple clients.

I will give you more feedback in coming days as I try to make a “real” use of it.

Thank you!

a

John F
2 February 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew

I’ve been tinkering with this Gallery – and I like it a lot. It fills a gap in my client services, so thanks! One question – is it possible to set the high res downloads larger than 3000×3000?

2 February 08 / link / feed

Yes, but I’ll need to modify the code. What would you like the maximum size to be?

Acey
2 February 08 / link / feed

Matthew,

Let me echo the response of John F above. It is perfect for me in the same area.

I also would like to be able to set a higher rez download. How high can you comfortably go given the parameters? What is the largest you feel is feasible? In other words, If a client wants to use an image on a two page spread it is one thing. But, if it is for a poster etc then another. I would always vote for the maximum size possible.

Here are some other thoughts:
If I am putting it up for client downloads, I don’t need the feedback portion. Can it be removed in a future version? This would create more space for photos per page of the gallery and clean up the presentation. Also, might eliminate confusion with some clients. At the point I am giving them this, they do not need to give me feedback, rate the photos or make choices. They are making the choices by the downloads they make.

Would be nice to later determine which photos were downloaded by the client(s).

Could a “Download Button” be affixed? They push the button and then the photo downloads directly to their desktop. Or, better, they are given an opportunity to browse and indicate (or create) which folder the photo should go into.

This is the type of gallery that one might ALWAYS automatically want to have password protected. I suppose we should download your recommendation in that area.

beginning thoughts…

and THANK YOU!

a

John Furlong
3 February 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew

I have a Nikon D3 which ouptuts images at 3872×2592. I’m not sure about the Canons of this world, but I do know they are higher. Of course future cameras will be higher still. Is it possible to set the size using a slider and also have an option for ‘leave at full size’?

5 February 08 / link / feed

I’m not sure there’s a way to include a “leave at full size” option, but I can increase the limitation on the maximum image size.

Theoretically, with quality set to 100 and Image Width and Height each set to the largest dimension of your full resolution images (in your case, John, Width and Height for the third rendition would both be set to 3872px), the third rendition should be “full size”.

Now that the XML Album Index is released, I’ll be returning to the Client Response gallery for an update. I might take a day or two off first, though, and maybe work on some actually photography. ;)

John F
7 February 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew

Increasing the maximum size would be great – thank you. I’ve been thinking more about how to use this gallery in conjunction with TTG Selection Gallery. I think what you have at present is great, but here’s my 2 cents:

I will upload images using TTG Selection Gallery for my clients to choose their picks, then use the TTG Client Response Gallery to provide them with high res downloads. Using this scenario, it makes more sense for clients to be able to comment on individual images when they pick, rather than at the download stage. All that would be needed from the Client Response Gallery would be a download button next to the thumbnail. Does this make sense or do you have a different way of working in mind?

John

7 February 08 / link / feed

For the next version, I want to experiment with methods of hiding or disabling parts of the gallery so that photographers can better customize the form for their clients. I need to play with things before I can say for certain what will or will not be possible, though.

David Rogers
26 February 08 / link / feed

Mathew,

I notice on the Client Response Gallery it is possible to check all of the rating boxes. If you are to update this gallery would you consider the ability to only check a single box 1-5.

Thank you.

26 February 08 / link / feed

David,

You are correct; it is possible to select more than one. Unfortunately, that’s checkbox behavior. I’d tried using radio buttons instead, as you can only choose one radio button at a time, but then the form received was a mess of individual entries. To receive results in the desired format – image file names separated by commas, easily copied and pasted into Lightroom’s Find pane – I needed to go with the checkboxes.

3 March 08 / link / feed

Hi,

I just wanted to mention http://www.htaccesseditor.com/en.shtml as an alternative to secure your site via .htaccess files. IMHO very easy and convenient.

Marco

7 March 08 / link / feed

Matthew,

OK, so I am trying to get the Client Response gallery to work and I’m having trouble. I downloaded the folder, changed the email address in the PHP document as instructed and put in the web gallery (not web templates) folder which was already there. I also upgraded my hosting to make sure that I had PHP on the server. This is the error I get:

Warning: mail(): Failed to connect to mailserver at “65.211.123.33” port 25, verify your “SMTP” and “smtp_port” setting in php.ini or use ini_set() in O:\Hosted Web Sites\Chris.Hollo\hollophotographics_com\www\josh_test\FormToEmail.php on line 218

Any ideas?

CH

7 March 08 / link / feed

Chris,

It sounds like your server is not configured to allow SMTP. You should contact your server administrator to reconfigure the server to allow PHP to send mail.

Stuart Allen
12 March 08 / link / feed

Would this work if it was uploaded onto .mac?

12 March 08 / link / feed

No. .Mac lacks PHP support. You’ll need a proper web-server to get this going.

Aurelio
11 April 08 / link / feed

Hi Metthew,
I just love the Client response gallery, but I got some problems when some galeries got messed up. The thumnails looked as if there where stretched (not all but some) and the tumbs didnt correspond to the image that gets displayed when you click on them.
Have you heard of this problem or do you have an Idea on how to solve this. I put up a gallery with just the broken thumbs and they worked fine. But in the large galery with over 250 pictures some are always broken.
Thanks so much i didnt find any clues anywhere else!
Aurelio

11 April 08 / link / feed

Hi Aurelio,

I’ve never heard of such a problem. Does it happen every time? In every browser? Can I see a gallery with the problem?

Aurelio
11 April 08 / link / feed

Hi Metthew,
damm I could bang my forhead, it just doesn’t work in Firefox, seems to be a hickup there :-) (must erase my cache)
I just tried it in Safari and it works like always…
One thing though: LR crashed a couple of times while generating a preview of the Gallery (freezing)
Ill drop you a line in case I find a pattern or if it doesnt stop.
Thank so much
Aurelio

25 April 08 / link / feed

Hello Matthew,

How would I integrate this with a PayPal option – including several pricing points based on picture size or format? (selecting from a pull down menu list…)

regards,

Tsc.

26 April 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew…

and THANK YOU SO MUCH for developping this tool! You have just saved me hours of work and my donation is on it’s way!

I’ve been “dreaming” about a fully integrated system that can ease my workflow and found your name after posting a request in the Lightroom 2.0 forum: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=678&threadid=1357442&forumid=72

Your tool really does most of what I need, but as I see that you like feedback ;-), here is what would be wonderful for me:<br> – client info (name, email, etc), username & password and “custom text” set-up from Lightroom so that when the website is uploaded, an email is sent directly to my client with the link, username & password and custom text with instructions. – a “save” feature for the clients as they are working on the page (generally, the web gallery is 100’s of photos, so they might want to stop in the middle and also there is the risk that the page times out and they have to start all over again).<br> – multi-page gallery (goes with the point above) – billing option (check-out to PayPal)
Anyway… thanks again for these wonderful web galleries and innovative ideas!
Best regards from Poland

26 April 08 / link / feed

Hi Danielle,

I’m glad you like the Client Response Gallery. I’m currently overhauling the gallery. Version 2.0 is a very different and hopefully much improved gallery. I’ve made a beta version of the gallery available via LightroomForums.net on which I’ve been collecting feedback and bug reports. You might want to give it a try.

On to your suggestions, good ideas all, but not practical in the context of Lightroom.

- client info (name, email, etc), username & password and “custom text” set-up from Lightroom so that when the website is uploaded, an email is sent directly to my client with the link, username & password and custom text with instructions.

There’s no way to automate emailing from the LR Web module, and so this can’t be done. Also, password protecting these galleries is something that needs to done manually. There are a number of methods for doing so, but I like "this one":http://theturninggate.net/blog/password-protect-lightroom-galleries.

- a “save” feature for the clients as they are working on the page (generally, the web gallery is 100’s of photos, so they might want to stop in the middle and also there is the risk that the page times out and they have to start all over again).

A good idea, and could feasibly be done using cookies. I don’t know how to setup cookies, but might look into it. If it’s something that I can setup, I agree it could be a very nice feature.

- multi-page gallery (goes with the point above)

Not feasible due to the fact that HTML forms cannot span multiple pages. Moving to the next page would cause information entered on the previous page to be lost. My suggestion here is to break your large galleries into smaller groups and produce them separately.

- billing option (check-out to PayPal)

If I had a nickel for every PayPal request I’ve gotten on this gallery … ;)

PayPal is not in the plan for the Client Response Gallery. I have been pointed in a feasible direction for providing a shopping cart gallery at some point in the future, though. I need to do some investigations before I can decide whether or not it’s really likely to happen, but I’m hoping that, at some point in the near future, there will be a TTG Shopping Gallery. I just need to get the Client Response Gallery and a few other projects wrapped up before I can turn my attention to it.

Cheers,
Matt

30 April 08 / link / feed

Hello Matthew and thanks for your long answer!

I’ve come accross a little issue that you might already know about. If a user enters a comment beneath a photo, but doesn’t “tick” the box, the email I get lists the comments one after the other without reference to the photo it came from… which makes it a little difficult to track.

Anything that I’m doing wrong or is it “normal” and can be fixed in a next version?

I’ll give a go at beta 2.0 as soon as I get a minute to breathe :-)

Take care – Danielle

30 April 08 / link / feed

It should be fixed in the 2.0 beta. Comments have their own identifiers.

16 May 08 / link / feed

Hi Matt!

I love the new Client response gallery and use it alot. Just one thing, i don’t want my clients to download my images without paying for it, is it possible to disable the “save image as…” function? Would be nice as I’m selling websized images.
Fix that and I’m donating!

16 May 08 / link / feed

Hi Jens,

The Client Response Gallery includes an option to disable the Download Hi-Res option. You can find the checkbox toggle under the Appearance pane. When disabled, what would otherwise be hi-res images are rendered at a size of 1 pixel (because there’s not way to disable the rendering altogether) making them useless.

Cheers,
Matthew

21 May 08 / link / feed

Hello Matt!

Awesome product. I’m using version 2.0 R3 on LR 1.3.1. I created a test Gallery that works perfectly including the Password Protection and the email form. It’s the one named “Jana and Chris Test Comment site” on http://weddingmedia.net/Portfolio/ . (I finally figured out the indexing thing and put it to use.)

Feeling confident I created a new site “Excel Graduation Party”. Sometime durng my modifications in the LR web module, I started getting IE Script error messages. I figured this is one of those IE vs LR things you mentioned in another post and proceeded as best as I could. However, after posting, restartng and recreating the site, I am still getting the same error.

Suggestions Please (:>)

21 May 08 / link / feed

P.S. If upgradeing to 1.4 or other is the possible cure, is there a way to import all the settings that I have used in this web gallery?

21 May 08 / link / feed

Hi Carlos,

You can save settings at any time by creating a template preset. To do that, find the Templates pane in the left panel of the Web module, and click the ‘Add’ button.

As for the errors, you should be able to click through them and continue to use the gallery. My understanding is that LR2 will take steps to suppress these errors, so they should soon be a thing of the past.

Are you having problems with the gallery once it’s been exported to the web, or is it okay at that point?

Cheers,
Matt

21 May 08 / link / feed

The Script errors continue on the web exactly as they manifest while in Lightroom. It’s not one of the agMode messages I read your note about that. It’s some kind of a script hang that never finishes. You can experience it by going to the Excel site referred to above but I forgot to mention that the password is “2008”. http://weddingmedia.net/Portfolio/ExcelParty/

The similar messages come up on both IE and Firefox. Interestingly all works fine in Opera but I know most (if not all) of the viewers will be on IE.

21 May 08 / link / feed

While in LR, even after a restart once I click over to the web gallery tab, as the page starts to build, I’ll get a popup Windows Internet Explorer Message reading:

Stop running this Script?
A scrip on this page is causing IE to run slowly…

it gives yes and No buttons and the page hangs until something or other clears. Similar Activity occurs when leaving the site. Similar messg on Firefox.

21 May 08 / link / feed

I updated to 1.4.1 but the issue persists. In case you want to have a look at it I placed the template for this online here: http://carlosgalvanphotography.com/tmp/PrintPkgOrdering.lrtemplate

Thanks for your help
Carlos (:>)

22 May 08 / link / feed

Hi Carlos,

I just tried out your gallery and saw the script error message as well. There’s a few things I’d like you to do.

1) Click through to my sample gallery and tell me whether you receive the error there as well.

2) Remove the password protection from your gallery and try it again (I expect this won’t help at all, but I want you to try it just to be safe).

3) Create your gallery again and do not edit the code (i.e. don’t insert your paragraphs or make any other changes). I want to test the raw output from the gallery to confirm that the error is generated from the template. I want you to test this mostly because the code you’ve inserted into the page is not XHTML compliant.

4) Systematically remove the <script> tags from the head of your gallery, one-by-one, and see if we can narrow the problem down to one script.

Please let me know the results of these tests and I’ll try to troubleshoot further from the findings.

Thanks,
Matt

22 May 08 / link / feed

No Error from your sample gallery. On any of my Browsers.

I previously removed the password protection with the same result.

XHTML Compliance? Ok I read up on that and found errors. I’ve changed all the tags (I think). The issue persists (:<)

Ok I’ve made several versions (including a “virgin” one) all visible from the Portfolio page (click on my name above). It seems that I made a change somewhere in the config panel that’s causing this. Freakishly this error only occurs on my versions with 140 images and not my versions with 4 images. I originally did all my configuring with only four images up so that the refreshes would be quicker. Ironicaly instead of saving me time, I’ve used a whole day trying to track this down. If I would have kept the 140 images up, I would have seen what config change started causing this error.

I’m going to start again this time keeping all the images available for use while configuring

Any other suggestions would be met with grateful ears (uhh)eyes.

Carlos

24 May 08 / link / feed

After much experimentation with various configs I have finally concluded that the culprit is the number of images or perhaps the overall size of the files that I had in the gallery. I have made 3 functioning gallerys with the images that I was hoping to have in one.

You can see them at my recent page for the moment. Later I will be creating an http://weddingmedia.net/excel/ page for these. the password is still 2008.

Another issue that I see is that in IE every time the Selection X is clicked the page jumps down aprox. 2 pages worth. Quite irritating for the user. Have you experienced this. Perhaps this too is because of th number of images?

Carlos

25 May 08 / link / feed

I have not experienced that issue. But I’m not a regular IE user either and use a Mac, so my IE testing is mostly preliminary and certainly not intensive.

I’m glad the smaller galleries are working, but still wonder which script(s) would have caused the problem. I just hope I can get future versions of the gallery to less problematic.

29 May 08 / link / feed

The form to email script has stopped sending selection choices. It was however working when I first tested the template on my server.
see http://www.ryanvosburg.com/webgallery/ pass: flowtree

I do receive the comments and email but the selection #‘s arn’t working anymore, no matter which browser I use. any help is greatly appreciated. I love your templates and what your doing for the community. thank you

Ryan
11 June 08 / link / feed

I have noticed that the larger the gallery is, the load time is QUITE long, and while its loading, the page is non-responsive. This is in Firefox and Safari on Mac, and Firefox and IE on Windows.

Example
http://lightbox.ryancrocker.com/nicole/

Cheers, and thanks for all you do!

rob
13 June 08 / link / feed

Hi there!

Great gallery! Makes my work with clients running smooth and easy but is there an option for fully disabling ‘right click’? I’ve already disabled HIres photos but the smaller (e.g. 640px) pictures can be downloaded by the visitors without my permission.

Cheers
Rob

13 June 08 / link / feed

Rob, I have no plans to implement right-click protection in this gallery, for two reasons. For most implementations of the gallery, I think the right-click menu is actually desirable behavior, and because the template is already Javascript heavy, I don’t want to add anything extra. In fact, I’d like to trim things down if I can find a way to do so.

The Shadowbox and Slimbox galleries offer right-click protection as an option. I’d suggest using those, or password protecting your client response galleries to limit access to clients only.

14 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew,

Fantastic work on these galleries. They are truly making lightroom a more fun, usable and professional tool.

My question is the same as Carlos’ and Ryan’s. I have a gallery with 300+ images and it seems to freeze up Safari (I end up force quitting) and Firefox gives messages popping up saying un-responsive script, “continue” or “cancel”.

I’d really love to use this gallery to send to wedding clients but this little bug seems to be slowing things down quite a bit.

Do you have any suggestions or idea to work around this issue or is it just the nature of the beast so to speak?

Thanks again for your hard work on these galleries.
If this pesky bug gets fixed I know several photographers willing to switch over to this sort of gallery,
and would be more than happy to donate to the cause.

Cheers for now and I look forward to hearing from you!

Erik

14 June 08 / link / feed

I’ve spent some time looking into the issues this week, and my conclusion is this: the “problem” isn’t a bug; it’s just a hell of a lot of Javascript. The gallery is loading scripts for Highslide, MooTools, MooTabs, NiftyCorners and Fancy Forms. All that Javascript bogs down the page load. Firefox is setup to show the “unresponsive script” warning any time a script runs for more than 10 seconds; it doesn’t necessary mean the script is broken, but just that it’s running for a long time.

Some of the scripts are loaded on a per-image basis, meaning that every image in the gallery adds to the script pile. That’s why the problem doesn’t show up in smaller galleries, but does in larger ones.

I’ll hopefully find some way to address this issue, but I’m not sure I can do it without sacrificing features (and I’d hate to do that). The best prevention at the moment is to limit the size of the galleries. If you’re loading 300 images, try breaking them up into smaller galleries. It should help to improve gallery behavior, and I think multiple, smaller galleries are probably more digestible by the clients who will be offering feedback.

15 June 08 / link / feed

Thanks for the quick reply Matthew.
Sounds like you’ve hit the nail right on the head with your conclusion.

I’m wondering… do you freelance and how difficult would it be to create a simpler version of this.
Perhaps just a simple check box in the bottom right hand corner of every thumbnail.
Very clean, and minimal with some of the options like print sizes and comments still available.
You mentioned that if there is less script then perhaps larger galleries would be more inclined to work efficiently.

I’d be willing to purchase something like this from you without all the bells and whistles.
I love the idea of this and would love for it to be an everyday tool.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks again for your reply and homework on this issue.

15 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Erik,

I do freelance work, but still need to nail this one down and get it out of beta before I can start customizing it for people. Right now, I’m trying to trim down the scripts some and I’m hoping that I’ll have time today to test an alternative tab script that might help things along.

Cheers,
Matt

20 June 08 / link / feed

Hey Matt,

This gallery is so close to what we need! The problem is so many of our photographer-clients shoot 200-400 shots per “shot” and they really need a way to be able to mark them up and cull them together and sort them various ways. I guess that would add another big layer to this whole process but it would be SOOO useful for them. I wish i could just divide them into multiple galleries, but i don’t think they would like it because they could never see all their 3 stars at once, for example.

otherwise you are really onto something with this one! the ability to password-protect it, the new multi large preiviews-at-once thingy, and the email-text-to-LR-Find technique are all so helpful!

20 June 08 / link / feed

Hi John,

Thanks for the kind words. Sorting would require a very complicated back end, and probably either PHP or Flash (or both?), neither of which I’m very good with. Someday, I’d like to find the time to learn about these things and get some of these ideas into production. It’s just difficult to find the time, though.

Wim
26 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Mattew,
Anny idea why LR 1.4.1 hangs when i try to access the gallery in the web module?
I’m using TTG Client Response Gallery 2.0 R3
I would love to get this working as it’s exactly what i need, and i thank you for it !

Best Regards

Wim

Wim
26 June 08 / link / feed

Update: Problem is fixed by updating to the latest internet explorer.

Thanks for your hard work on this Matthew, i’m loving everything about this gallery and it will significantly reduce my workflow time. :-)

Wim.

Kenneth
27 June 08 / link / feed

Hey Matthew

This one is looking really promising. I’ve not loaded it yet but is there any chance a Quanty could be added to the Print selection?

Later
Kenneth

Wim
27 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew,
Is it possible to get more then 5 options in the 2 custom tabs?
Thank you

Wim

29 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew

I have been using you galleries for some time and wish, once again, to thank you for your work. After a revisit to your site i decided to update mine and take advantage of the Autoindexing and the client response gallery.

As I attend mountain bike events I have been looking for a gallery which I could directly export my images to from LR and have specific features for visitors. Many riders ask for small images which can be time consuming if you indulge and the more savvy just take them anyway. Having a link to an image will save me many an email reply for no sale!

I have uploaded three recent events (www.garywilliamson.co.uk/lr/events) but as they contain a large number of images I experience the issues described above plus an age working within LR as the scripts hog processor time. I now create the gallery with just 3 images filtered in Library beforehand, complete the relevant info in the web module, skip back to Library, filter in the rest of the images, back to web module, press upload and go make a coffee………. and have another one……. :>)

Do you think there might be away to break the gallery into pages? Most of my customers will only want one or two images so I could live with the fact that previous selections would not get carried page to page.

I have tested my new layout in FF, Oprea and Safari and works OK in most but I notice that my main gallery page www.garywilliamson.co.uk/lr does not load correctly in safari. A quick mouseover sorts it out though – any suggestions as to what this is and what would fix it?

Thanks once again for your dedication to these great improvements to LR functionality!

Gary

29 June 08 / link / feed

Hi Gary,

Because an HTML form cannot be split across multiple pages, the gallery wouldn’t work with multiple pages. For downloading images that’s not a problem, but for users filling in form data, I expect many would flip to the next page only to lose everything they’ve done.

As for the Safari issue, it’s a rendering issue with the browser and I’m not sure there’s a server-side solution for it.

Sometime soon, I’ll maybe be revising this gallery again. Not sure whether it will fix the large gallery issues or not, but we’ll see.

Cheers,
Matt

7 July 08 / link / feed

Matthew,
I can’t tell you how much I have loved using the templates and galleries you have put together. I have used them along with slideshow pro for lightroom along with director. I do have a issue that I have not been able to solve using the client response page R 2.0 R3. The page opens up and functions well. What happens is, if while on the page, the user clicks on the menu to navigate through the site, instead of the page opening in the same window instance, it opens up a new window leaving the current on open. Thus leaving the client response window open. If the user comes back via the menu selections another new window will open. Too many windows, any suggestions. Thanks…….

Larry
7 July 08 / link / feed

Matthew,
After reviewing the index.htm file that is created, I realized that the href tags were using a target of _blank. I changed them to _self. Is there a way to set that to _self or leave the target out without me having to modify every time I create a new gallery. Thanks.

7 July 08 / link / feed

Larry,

Target is set to _blank intentionally to prevent users from accidentally clicking their way out of the page and losing any form input they’ve made. It’s meant as a safeguard.

9 July 08 / link / feed

Got it. Makes sense to me.

Thanks Matthew.

Nick
12 July 08 / link / feed

Hello! CRG is making my life easier, so much so that I actually purchased the form to email pro, however, I wonder if there is a way to have it automatically include itself in the CRG output pages. I’m no wizard, so I was hoping to get some guidance on how I can move from the regular version to the pro version without manual intervention. Thanks!!

13 July 08 / link / feed

I have FormToEmail Pro, but haven’t actually gotten around to fooling with it yet. Therefore, it may or may not be more complicated than this, but all you should need to do is:

1) Open the Pro version of the FormToEmail.php file in a text-editor and make whatever changes you feel are necessary. Give it your email address, for example, and maybe set it’s return-to-page target to ‘index.html’.

2) Crack open the gallery template in Finder/Explorer and overwrite the distributed FormToEmail.php file with your Pro version.

Any gallery you export should then include your Pro version file, with your modifications, and it should no longer be necessary for you to intervene in exported galleries.

Nick
14 July 08 / link / feed

thanks, I couldn’t figure that out to save my life so I just took the easy road which is to let LR export your gallery and then just rename the new formtoemailpro.php to FormToEmail.php and everything works. So it’s really not life or death as long as I remember to rename the php file before upload.

14 July 08 / link / feed

Right. But if you edit and include the Pro version of the file in the template prior to export, you won’t ever have to change it again (except when upgrading the gallery to a new version). Just open up the lrwebengine file for the template and replace the FormToEmail.php file inside with the one you want to use.

That’s good advice for anyone using this template, and not just those with the Pro version. Even the free version, you can save yourself post-export editing by adding your email address to the FormToEmail.php file contained within the downloaded lrwebengine package.

Nick
19 July 08 / link / feed

knowing how slammed you’ve been I’m hesitant to bug you with this but I’m just not getting it. Since the pro version is named differently and has different content than the free version all my renaming in the LRWEB files has been met with ‘chunk…syntax” errors. Just replacing the file itself in the template folder doesn’t work because of the name change as well. What am I not getting here? Thanks for dealing with the trouble!!

19 July 08 / link / feed

Can’t you just change the name of the Pro version file to FormToEmail.php so that it matches the old one? Or doesn’t that work?

Nick
21 July 08 / link / feed

Tried. I get an error presumably because the content of the two files is different. I tried just putting the pro version in the web directory and replacing the non pro version, then renaming the pro version to the previous name, no go. If, however, I do this after the gallery is built and I do it manually prior to upload, it works fine. Probably just me or it could be lines within the new version don’t match lines within the old version. Still worth doing though and I’m sure there’ll be an update at some point in the future.

21 July 08 / link / feed

I see. I’ve got too much going on right now to sit down and sort it out, but I’ll shortlist it as something to do as soon as I’m able. If I feel there’s necessity for it, I’ll try to post some kind of tutorial after I’ve had some time to work on it.

Ant
23 July 08 / link / feed

Hi ya,

Forgive me for being completely stupid – but was just wondering where do I locate the FormToEmail.php file? (is there an installation for dummies?)

This is a great program and one that will make many photographer’s lives easy! So cheers again!

Ant.

23 July 08 / link / feed

Ant,

Prior to export, you can find it inside the .lrwebengine file that constitutes the template. Post-export, you can located FormToEmail.php in the root of your exported gallery.

Ant
24 July 08 / link / feed

Brilliant. Thanks mate… am teaching myself DW as I go.

But this is making it a whole lot easier!

Cheers again,

Ant

Nick
25 July 08 / link / feed

Matthew, no worries, understood about the “too much going on” part as I’m there myself. The extra step won’t stop me using neither TTG nor formtoemailpro and as you said, at some point you’ll get around to it. Thanks for your kind responses thus far!

28 July 08 / link / feed

I am having major problems in getting the FormToEmail.php to work. I bought the pro version still no luck. I am being hosted by Yahoo Small business and their support group instructed me to insert this:

Step 1: Copy and paste the following HTML code to the <Form> tag in your page.

<form method=post action=“http://us.1.p11.webhosting.yahoo.com/forms?login=moore92807”>

Step 2: Save the file you are working on. When a visitor submits the form, the results will be emailed to the alternate email address you have listed in your Yahoo! Account Information.

Yahoo! Mail Address: moore92807@yahoo.com
Alternate Email 1: ellis@eemphotography.com (primary)
Alternate Email 2: mooreee@msn.com
Alternate Email 3:

No Luck, Help

28 July 08 / link / feed

Ellis,

For the gallery to function, the form action must point to FormToEmail.php or FormToEmailPro.php. It just won’t work otherwise. By changing the code as they suggest, you’re eliminating FormToEmail.php entirely.

Another user also had problems hosting the gallery on Yahoo Small Business. I’m afraid it’s a limitation of their server. I think the only solution is to move hosting services. I’m keen on SiteGround.

Tom
31 July 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew,

I’ve spent some time creating presets in Lightroom so my file names only ever contain “_” and not “-”, the only problem comes when working with virtual copies.

Once I have prepared and exported my gallery in the web module, I then re-export the images keeping the file names intact, LR however will give virtual copies a “-” in the exported file name.

Do you know how I can stop LR from doing this and using a “_” in virtual copy file names when exporting from the Libray module?

Many Thanks,
Tom.

1 August 08 / link / feed

Tom,

I’ve spent very little time working with virtual copies, and I’m honestly not quite sure the best way to handle them in reference to Web galleries. :(

8 August 08 / link / feed

The client response is awesome. The ONE change I’d make is that the “client assignable ratings” is set to only once choice at a time, meaning if I choose 5 and then 3, 5 would get unchecked.

Thank you.

Pepo
12 August 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew
First of all thank the galleries you’re doing and we facilitate the work. So far I have used the TTG Client Response Gallery 2.0 Pre-Final and have not had any problems, now to upgrade to lightrom 2 he upgraded to 2.01 TTG Client Response Gallery, and the problem I have is that updates the Web gallery, but when it creates Web Lightrom hangs on, I could be due, as the rest of galleries work well.
Thank you

16 August 08 / link / feed

When I try to send using FormtoEmail I get an error. I had set this up in an earlier version than 2.01 and now it doesn’t work. I get this error:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, support@supportwebsite.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.photosforever-mn.com Port 80

Thanks

16 August 08 / link / feed

The FormToEmail script is exactly the same as in previous versions of the gallery and should therefore function as before. The error could be caused by changes made to your server, upgrades or adjustments to security settings. You might want to contact your web server’s host about the problem.

Hazzer
17 August 08 / link / feed

Many thanks for The Client Response gallery, it looks great & I think I might grow very fond of it.
But right now I cant seem to get V2.01 to run to completion.
I have Lightroom V2 on a Win XP machine, and V2.01 of the Client Web Gallery seems to crash lightroom right at the last step with the “Building requested page” in the top left of the screen almost at 100%. Ive tried removing the web gallery & starting with a fresh version, Ive also tried to sw off the live update js, but its still won’t run to completion. Client Response Gallery 1.1 runs fine. Any ideas?

Thanks

Hazzer

23 August 08 / link / feed

Hello my dear Matthew!
How you see, my Homepage is over and over with your galleries. Now i just detected this your new client gallery and i guess this would be too good to be true, but i have problems with installing in LR, just like you can see at http://dasfotoarchiv.com/kindergarten/client%20gallery%20mistake.tiff

have you any idea to help me?
the older version is working, like i tested now.
i have LR 1.4.1.

best greetings, silke

Spike
23 August 08 / link / feed

Hi Matthew,
like everyone else I’m totally bowled over by your commitment to the TTG templates. They really are the biz. I’ve been playing with your client response template and noticed a couple of problems that I think I’ve solved and thought it might be of use to you. Like you I’m a Macintosh man but, due to a short sighted employer, I have to work with the dreaded PC’s. The upside of this is that I can take a look at the template on both platforms, and as you would expect there are some differences. Internet Explorer (yeauch) has problems displaying PNG’s even with the JavaScript fix. The area that it shows up in most is the ticks, crosses and response buttons/icons in the gallery feedback boxes. My work around for this has been to change “chk_on.png” for a GIF version “chk_on.gif”. The same for “chk_off.png” and “respond.png”. The have to be in all instances of the gallery/resources/images folders and the gallery/resources/CSS/gallery.css file has to be amended in each case of course but it seems to work in my testing.

The other problem/fix is when placing an “idplate” image in the header. Internet Explorer has problems when you amend the spacing to cater for it. In my case the extra spacing is not recognised for some reason. My solution, via trial and error, was to change all the CSS file “header” references from “min-height” to “height”.

I’m not a coder and most of this is suck it and see for me. I don’t know if these changes have any implications elsewhere but I’m sure you could put me right on that. Anyway hope this is of some use so someone :-)

An idea for the future – maybe give all the pages the ability to refer to the resources in the root directory to cut down on loading and duplication of assets. Dunno – just a thought?

Good luck with the move back home(?)

PS. Any ideas on how to integrate the password entry script into a standard TTG page. I’ve worked out how to create a “thank you” page for the FormToEmail by duplicating the about page and amending it but I’m stuck on the password version.

Spike

24 August 08 / link / feed

Silke, the new version requires LR 2.0. You’ll need to upgrade to use it.

25 August 08 / link / feed

Hi,
i’ve the same problem the 2.01 response freezes the lightroom 2

25 August 08 / link / feed

The problems may be related to the use of Mootools 1.2. I’m working on the same issues in the Shadowbox gallery. If I find a successful solution there, I’ll try to implement it here as well.

@Spike: I’m aware of the IE6 issues. Some of them were intentional trade-offs. This being a template for professional use with clients, however, I may need to go back and rethink some of the trade-offs in favor of wider compatibility. I’ll revisit this later when I have some time. I’m a little swamped right now setting up my new abode in Massachusetts.

26 August 08 / link / feed

Don’t worry Matt your work is awesome! I think I will use lightroom 1.4.1 with the old web gallery module!

Thanks again!

Giaime

Shai
26 August 08 / link / feed

Hi,

First I would like to say that this gallery is a wonderful, useful, beautiful and all kinds of other “fuls”.
I have one problem preventing me from using it. I’m based in Israel and most of the communication with local customers is done in Hebrew. When I write Hebrew I get gibberish, both on the e-mail form and on the interface itself.
Is there any fix for that? A direction I could try and check to fix this?

Again, this is a great product.

Thank you,
Shai Schcolnik

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